المغربي مهدي
2010-07-25, 07:13 PM
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله
أرجوا منكم اخوتي ان تعطوني المقاطع الموجودة في الثلمود و التوراة و التي تصرح بقتل الاخرين و كره الاخرين غير اليهود و كدلك ما يقال عن عيسى عليه السلام . بالنجليزية لو أمكن . مع ذكر الترقيم او الاصحاح... او مهما كان نظام ترقيمهم
شكرا لكم
mego650
2010-07-25, 07:43 PM
عليك بكتاب همجية التعاليم الصهيونية للخوري بولس حنا فيه شرح وافي لكل ما تسأل عنه بس للأسف الكتاب بالعربي :
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http://maktaba.weboran.com/book-1027.html
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المغربي مهدي
2010-07-25, 08:19 PM
شكرا لك على الكتاب اخ ميجدو
لكن انا اخي كنت اريد بالضبط من التوراة لانه يؤمن بها المسيحييون ايضا اليس كدلك ؟؟
mego650
2010-07-25, 08:28 PM
طيب انت قلت التلمود لو عاوز من التوارة فهو كتير أتيك به بعد صلاة العشاء بإذن الله وبالنص الإنجليزى كما تحب .
mego650
2010-07-26, 12:18 AM
تفضل أخي الفاضل هذه هي النصوص التى طلبت من التوارة :
التثنية الأصحاح 20 الأعداد من 10 :14
Deu 20:10 When thou commest nigh vnto a City to fight against it, then proclaime peace vnto it.
Deu 20:11 And it shall be, if it make thee answere of peace, and open vnto thee, then it shalbe that all the people that is found therein, shall be tributaries vnto thee, and they shall serue thee.
Deu 20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make warre against thee, then thou shalt besiege it.
Deu 20:13 And when the Lord thy God hath deliuered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite euery male thereof with the edge of the sword.
Deu 20:14 But the women, and the litle ones, and the cattell, and all that is in the citie, euen all the spoile thereof, shalt thou take vnto thy selfe, and thou shalt eate the spoile of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath giuen thee.
نفس السفر ونفس الإصحاح العدد من 16: 18
Deu 20:15 Thus shalt thou doe vnto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
Deu 20:16 But of the cities of these people which the Lord thy God doth giue thee for an inheritance, thou shalt saue aliue nothing that breatheth:
Deu 20:17 But thou shalt vtterly destroy them, namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hiuites, and the Iebusites, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
Deu 20:18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they haue done vnto their gods, so should ye sinne against the Lord your God.
أشعياء 23:11
Isa 23:11 He stretched out his hand ouer the sea, hee shooke the kingdomes: the Lord hath giuen a commandement against the merchant citie, to destroy the strong holdes thereof.
أرميا 47:4
Jer 47:4 Because of the day that commeth to spoile all the Philistines, and to cut off from Tyrus and Zidon euery helper that remaineth: for the Lord will spoile the Philistines, the remnant of the countrey of Caphtor.
ارميا 48:38
Jer 48:38 There shall be lamentation generally vpon all the house toppes of Moab, and in the streetes thereof: for I haue broken Moab like a vessell, wherin is no pleasure, saith the Lord.
ارميا 49:2
Jer 49:2 Therfore behold, the dayes come, saith the Lord, that I will cause an alarme of warre to be heard in Rabbah of the Ammonites, and it shall be a desolate heape, and her daughters shall be burnt with fire: then shall Israel be heire vnto them that were his heires, saith the Lord.
سفر حزقيال الاصحاح التاسع العدد من 5:7
Eze 9:5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Goe ye after him through the citie, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither haue ye pitie.
Eze 9:6 Slay vtterly olde and yong; both maides, and litle children, and women: but come not neere any man vpon whom is the marke, and begin at my sanctuary: then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7 And hee sayd vnto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slaine, goe ye forth: and they went forth and slew in the citie.
حزقيال 25 من 13:15
Eze 25:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, I will also stretch out mine hand vpon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it, and I will make it desolate from Teman, and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword.
Eze 25:14 And I will lay my vengeance vpon Edom by the hand of my people Israel, and they shall doe in Edom according to mine anger, and according to my furie, and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord God.
Eze 25:15 Thus saith the Lord God, Because the Philistines haue dealt by reuenge, and haue taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred:
سفر العدد الاصحاح 31 العدد من 2:12
Num 31:2 Auenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered vnto thy people.
Num 31:3 And Moses spake vnto the people, saying, Arme some of your selues vnto the warre, and let them goe against the Midianites, and auenge the Lord of Midian.
Num 31:4 Of euery tribe a thousand, throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the warre.
Num 31:5 So there were deliuered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of euery tribe, twelue thousand armed for warre.
Num 31:6 And Moses sent them to the warre, a thousand of euery tribe, them and Phinehas the sonne of Eleazar the Priest, to the warre, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow, in his hand.
Num 31:7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses, and they slew all the males.
Num 31:8 And they slew the Kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slaine; namely Eui, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, fiue Kings of Midian; Balaam also the sonne of Beor they slew with the sword.
Num 31:9 And the children of Israel tooke all the women of Midian captiues, and their little ones, and tooke the spoile of all their cattell, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
Num 31:10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles with fire:
Num 31:11 And they tooke all the spoile, and all the pray, both of men and of beasts.
Num 31:12 And they brought the captiues, and the pray, and the spoile vnto Moses and Eleazar the Priest, and vnto the Congregation of the children of Israel, vnto the campe at the plaines of Moab, which are by Iordan neere Iericho.
العدد 31 من 15:18
Num 31:15 And Moses said vnto them, Haue ye saued all the women aliue?
Num 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsell of Balaam, to commit trespasse against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the Congregation of the Lord.
Num 31:17 Now therefore kill euery male among the little ones, and kill euery woman that hath knowen man, by lying with him.
Num 31:18 But all the women children that haue not knowen a man by lying with him, keepe aliue for your selues.
اشعياء 13 من 15:16
sa 13:15 Euery one that is found shall be thrust through: and euery one that is ioyned vnto them, shall fall by the sword.
Isa 13:16 Their children also shalbe dashed to pieces before their eyes, their houses shalbe spoiled, & their wiues rauished.
هل هذا كافي؟
حفيدة ابن القيم
2010-07-26, 04:31 PM
التلمود هو العقيدة الشفوية لليهود أما التوراة هي العقيدة
المكتوبة لليهود
المغربي مهدي
2010-07-28, 05:11 AM
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