حوار على اليوتيوب

[الرافعي]

ما أريده الآن بشدة إخوتي هو دلائل قاصمة على تحريف الكتاب المقدس من العلماء المسيحيين أنفسهم باللغة الإنجليزية ، فهل يتوفر ذلك بارك الله فيكم؟؟

[زنبقة الاسلام]

جزاك الله كل خير أخي الفاضل مسلم
وأسأل الله أن يجعل هداية هذا الشاب على يديك

[حنين اللقاء]

ماشاء الله اخي مسلم والله كفيت ووفيت ليش تقول ان انجليزيتك وحشة تاكد ان كل حرف بيوصله وبيلمس قلبه كمان ان شاء الله

[أبو جاسم]

ما أريده الآن بشدة إخوتي هو دلائل قاصمة على تحريف الكتاب المقدس من العلماء المسيحيين أنفسهم باللغة الإنجليزية ، فهل يتوفر ذلك بارك الله فيكم؟؟





أخي الحبيب مسلم جزاك الله خيراً و جعل ما تقدم في ميزان حسناتك .

أخي عليك بكتاب ( سوء إقتباس يسوع ) للدكتور بارت ايهرمان و للعلم فإن الكتاب موجود في مكتبة ابن مريم و أظنه موجود باللغتين العربية و الإنجليزية .

و سأزودك بكتاب أخر إن أردت لنفس المؤلف .

أكرمك الله و أيدك .

[حنين اللقاء]

هذا كتاب رااائع للدكتور بارت ايرمان عنوانه تحريف اقوال يسوع
من حرف الكتاب المقدس ,? ولماذا ,? لا ادري اذا كان هو نفسه يقصده الاخ الكريم ابو جاسم

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16443114/-

[أبو جاسم]

هذا كتاب رااائع للدكتور بارت ايرمان عنوانه تحريف اقوال يسوع
من حرف الكتاب المقدس ,? ولماذا ,? لا ادري اذا كان هو نفسه يقصده الاخ الكريم ابو جاسم

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16443114/-


نعم أختي الفاضلة هو نفس الكتاب و اسمه بالإنجليزية (Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why )


أخي الحبيب مسلم نصيحة قبل أن تضع أدلة التحريف عليك أولاً أن تتفق مع محاورك على تعريف التحريف و أنواعه .

سددك الله و وفقك

[حنين اللقاء]

وجدته له اخي الفاضل ابو جاسم على شكل محاضرة بالانجليزية راااااائعة وخطيرة من حرف الكتاب المقدس ولماذا ? على الهواء هههه
بارك الله فيكم

[حنين اللقاء]

http://www.archive.org/details/MCDialogueroom

نسيت ان اضع الرابط

[الرافعي]

رد على رسالتي الأخيرة فقال :


You are doing great

You see I been raised a Christian my whole life and I was taught the bible
Is the Word of God 100% true without error...

And I feel that people tend to take the scriptures out out con****
Which happens a lot in both Religions

In Christianity we have people who blow up abortion clinics
And claim to be pro-life or people who bash other religions
because of what they believe is different

In Islam its the same many people have strayed away from the
truth and peace Islam promotes

Now for me to convert to Islam one must show me it is the way of God
The TRUE word of God given to the Prophet Muhammed...also they must prove
To me the errors of what I believe

ثم بعث لي برسالة أخرى - أظن تنقيحا لرسالته الأولى - قائلا :


You are doing great
I thank you for doing this for me


Here is my question
Why should I accept Islam ??


Now here is my challenge


In order for me to convert to Islam you must prove
To me Islam is 100% the Word of God given to the Prophet Muhammed
And prove to me the errors of the Bible. Many Muslim scholars say
The bible has been changed by man?? Can u prove to me how

That is the only way I must know that Islam is 100% true

يتبع مع ردي عليه إن شاء الله

[الرافعي]

رددت عليه قائلا :


peace be upon u my dear fellow ..

well, your method to take particular ways to be convinced with Islam is telling me that u r a man with a wide open mind ..

ya , u should 1st be convinced that Christianity has been corrupted and Islam has not .. and that's the way I like to think :)

well .. one question I'm asking u to answer it .. would u accept to believe in a book wrote by UNKNOWN as the word of god ?!

I'll give u an example .. the Torah or the 5 books of Moses : Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy .

Christians say that they were written by Moses .. but when we have a look over them we see they were not written by Moses .. :

- DEU-34-5:8 : So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.

so, how did Moses write his death news ? and if it's not him, so who ? UNKNOWN ..

but when it comes to Qur'an, u realize that the way the Qur'an was and still is transferred with, this way prevents its loss or its corruption . as Qur'an was and still transferred in the hearts of Muslims .. by preserving (memorizing) every word and every letter of it in their hearts ..

u know what .. I finished preserving and memorizing Qur'an when I was 10 and I'm still memorizing it .. there are muslim children who could do that at their 3 .. u believe that ?! In Muslim countries, there are competitions held for those who memorize Qur'an and thousands and millions are paid for them ..

that's the way the Qur'an was transferred to us .. not just in books .. as books are always susceptible to loss .. but primarily in the hearts of Muslims .. and hundreds have taught it to thousands and those have taught it to millions and millions to millions and so on ..

about being the word of God or not .. if u just look in it u will realize that the prophet could never come with it from any other source but God ..

now if a man claimed that he is a prophet ( and he is not ) and wanted the whole world to obey him and do what he wish .. and he claimed that a revelation comes to him and everybody of his followers would memorize this revelation .. would he state in it a rebuke for him ? of course not.
but if it's from God, he's not allowed to conceal or hide it ..

there is a story about this but I'm not gonna tell u about it before u tell me how u find this message :)

peace ..